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Old 31st March 2020, 00:54
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I always feel like that if I see a police car! Even though I never do anything illegal, I feel instantly guilty and worry if I'm doing something wrong by accident.
I think it's pretty common, but I've never felt like it before while driving until now
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Old 31st March 2020, 01:16
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I think many people with mental health issues will struggle far more especially if the lock-down intensifies to shopping only for weeks ahead as it has in some other countries. Even more concerning for me however is after this is over that the economy will have collapsed so much that there will be even less help available for mental health issues for probably years as its not seen as a priority given that help in the NHS is pretty awful for many with mental health problems even now.
Mental health services are already in a bad enough state as it is although I seem to be fortunate in that services round here seem to be holding on pretty well. I see your concern though, they're swamped as it is and it wouldn't take much for the system to break down completely.
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Old 31st March 2020, 15:38
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Personal space is now a real thing.
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Old 31st March 2020, 16:00
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^ I'm actually really liking the social distancing rules, not sure if that's bad of me but being in a queue the other day with someone 2m Infront of me and someone 2m behind (rather than getting so close they were about to ram me with their trolley) was much better.
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Old 31st March 2020, 17:12
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Obviously the death toll from Coronavirus is expected to be in the tens of thousands but there are bound to be a lot of people who will die, not from Coronavirus but as a result of lack of capacity within the NHS to treat other illnesses.
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Old 31st March 2020, 20:08
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Mental health services are already in a bad enough state as it is although I seem to be fortunate in that services round here seem to be holding on pretty well. I see your concern though, they're swamped as it is and it wouldn't take much for the system to break down completely.
Yes I was actually looking at whether if was still feasible to get help as I had just had to re-register at my GP for other problems anyway and I think the waiting list for therapy in Leicester was some of the worst in the country, 6 months to a year and even then it may only be six sessions.
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Old 31st March 2020, 21:45
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Sooty and Sweep will make a comeback, as will Yahtzee
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Old 31st March 2020, 22:07
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Yes I was actually looking at whether if was still feasible to get help as I had just had to re-register at my GP for other problems anyway and I think the waiting list for therapy in Leicester was some of the worst in the country, 6 months to a year and even then it may only be six sessions.
Yes, sadly some therapies are restricted to a limited number of sessions. Again I'm fortunate in that I don't have this problem in Southampton at the moment. Although I know some sessions are limited depending on the therapy you're receiving.

I hope you don't have to wait long Fungus. No one should have to wait to receive the help they need.
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Old 1st April 2020, 00:17
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There will be countless consequences for society, for the economy and for the world, won't there.

A small one is I wonder if we'll adopt some of the cultural habits common in South Asian countries, which have helped them contain the outbreak better. I mean countries like South Korea, and of course China, like mask wearing, better hygiene etc.
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Old 1st April 2020, 12:08
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- Spike in applications for online/quick divorce. Good relationships will survive, but this lockdown is going to expose cracks in the bad ones: it will highlight how selfish, unsupportive, boring, oafish, etc, someone’s partner really is.

- Spike in domestic violence. There will also be new cases (not just the usual suspects, who have done it before), as bored children, money worries, etc, tip people over the edge. Plus, people are drinking more, and alcohol, combined with bored children/people trapped together indoors isn’t good.

- Old mental health problems will re-appear. For example, I was listening to someone on the radio talking about her anorexia, and how the panic buying had triggered her, setting back years of progress. People with eating disorders use food to control a scary environment.

- Rise in alcohol related accidents (apparently, wine sales have gone through the roof). And a rise in alcohol abuse/heavy drinking. People don’t have to go to work, plus they are anxious, bored and not sleeping well.

- Spike in online prescriptions for anti- depressants.

- Spike in suicide and suicide attempts, especially among lonely, isolated people stuck in small flats who rely on friends and socialising to keep them going. Also, mentally ill, isolated people can’t get out to see their therapist or visit a support group.

- A boost to medical research. Huge amounts of money is going into research labs to find a vaccine or anti-viral, and this will continue (governments won’t want it to happen again).

- A new way of working. Employers will have to set up their employees from home. After this ends, it will be hard to refuse employees when they ask.
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Old 1st April 2020, 12:19
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^ that's a really interesting point about eating disorders and control

I think a lot of anxiety disorders are about trying to impose some kind of control when the world seems like a scary place and it seems scarier than ever at the moment. My son is coping really well with his OCD considering he was only just diagnosed weeks before all this started, but I wonder if when life returns to 'normal', that's when it will hit him, as at the moment he's in the safety of his own home with his family every day.
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Old 1st April 2020, 12:28
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not a consequence, but Cov 19 related, so seems suitable for here. but that advert on TV for "support your NHS", which was probably made a few months ago. seems a bit all to relevant now.
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Old 2nd April 2020, 13:04
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A massive increase in disputes between neighbours. A lot of people have to put up with noisy neighbours (it’s something the police ought to take more seriously), but this lockdown is going to make it much, much worse. Not only will our neighbours be at home all day, so will their kids, plus no one is getting enough outside stimulation or exercise, which means they will go to bed later and make more noise at night. To make it worse, most of us now live in tiny houses jammed together on new estates, so there is no escape.
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Old 2nd April 2020, 20:08
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^ I think the neighbours are getting on and and there’s a sense of community for a change specially with the clapping and all that.
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Old 2nd April 2020, 23:40
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There'll be a big change in relations with China, for not warning the world properly about this wretched thing. In fact, not only was the world not warned, raising the alarm about Covid-19 was, of course, actively suppressed.

Being so reliant for manufacturing, debt, etc. on a state like that seems unwise....

Or maybe there'll be almost no change!
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Old 2nd April 2020, 23:54
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^ China gave us more than enough notice but we just stuffed our fingers in our ears and ignored it.
If we'd have acted sooner then we could have stopped the virus in its tracks.
I'm no fan of the many horrible things that the Chinese government is responsible for, but it was the West that screwed up here.
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Old 3rd April 2020, 00:03
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^ China gave us more than enough notice but we just stuffed our fingers in our ears and ignored it.
well, I wouldn't say the Chinese doctor who tried to raise the alarm about coronavirus to the world receiving a visit by the authorities, and being threatened to stop, constitutes giving the world proper notice.

It certainly seems true that the West has managed the outbreak much worse though, tragically. And no, that itself isn't China's fault.
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Old 3rd April 2020, 10:31
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Obviously this is going to be tough for people with anxiety, depression, etc, but what about those who had recovered. I suspect this lockdown will re-ignite old problems, i.e things people believed they had got on top of. Agoraphobia would be an obvious example, but also hypochondria, OCD, paranoia, anxiety, even anorexia (which is partly about controlling a scary world). Plus, of course, they will find it even harder to access the support groups, therapists, etc, that had kept them well.
I am really struggling with panic at the moment
Panic isn't something that I normally struggle with, I know there's a lot of people here who do have more general anxiety disorder or panic attacks and quite a lot of people here have OCD.

My anxiety is normally just social anxiety, and while it's severe, if I am not having to deal with enforced social contact I don't normally get anxiety.

Since being ill though, which started initially 5 weeks ago (with mild symptoms) then 3 weeks ago with severe symptoms that lasted about 9 days, with 5 days out of that being particularly bad, although I have recovered from the severe symptoms I have been left very frightened and panicky.
I don't want to go into too much detail, but the severe symptoms were difficulty breathing and although I don't want to describe it too much, I was terrified at the time.

Now I am anxious that I'm not getting better (despite obviously being a lot better and my colour being back to normal and my breathing being ok)

I can't sleep. I am taking nytol but my brain seems to fight it and last night I was in a kind of half dozing/half panicked waking state until after 1am, then I wake in panic in the night in a confused, panicked state, thinking I am dying.

I don't know how long I will feel like this if testing and vaccines are a long way off in the future, my mum thinks that because I have probably had the virus already I am immune so shouldn't be worried about going out, but instead because I have had it and it was so terrifying (to me) I feel really panicked about going out. I can't face any shops at all and have only been out for a local walk twice.

I expect I will stay quite agoraphobic for a while.
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Old 3rd April 2020, 10:33
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Also sorry for the long negative post, I don't really know where or who to talk to about it all. In the grand scheme of things feeling frightened isn't so important to anyone right now
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Old 3rd April 2020, 10:34
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^^^ I said more than enough notice. Sure it was a very bad initial response from China, but you can't blame them for what's happened over here since.
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Old 3rd April 2020, 10:36
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^^ take care Nanuq. This will all pass and things will return back to normal eventually, I don't know when but it will.
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Old 3rd April 2020, 17:53
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Going for a walk is acceptable but this isn't good enough, mixing with people unless you have to is just stupid.

*don't quote please
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Old 3rd April 2020, 22:50
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Thanks AL

I was wondering if there'll ever be a time when we look back on this era as just a kind of horrible memory.

I really hope so, the alternative is that it will have either killed us or someone we love

Or it will always be there as a threat, unlike any illness that we've known in our lifetime. I feel like I've travelled back in time at the moment, in a weird way, and am like some Victorian woman fighting off TB or Polio or some other horror with nothing but soup, hot tea and a warm fire.
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Old 5th April 2020, 04:13
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I managed to get a delivery slot weeks ago , when I booked it at two o'clock in the morning and have added the delivery address incorrectly and now it won't let me change it.
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Old 5th April 2020, 11:09
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^ It should let you change the address, which shop is it with?
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Old 5th April 2020, 14:33
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It says we are unable to change your delivery address or how you receive your order, however you can change your slot and instructions below,
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Old 5th April 2020, 14:35
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^ How wrong is it, will it be going to the completely wrong place right now?!
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Old 5th April 2020, 14:47
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^ I have about ten days to cancel the order. Things may change, or another slot might become available.
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Old 5th April 2020, 14:54
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^ What a silly thing, you should be able to amend the address if it's wrong.
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Old 5th April 2020, 19:08
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^ I think it's due to the demand and the distance between addresses
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