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Old 27th February 2020, 13:59
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^ Did your mum get on okay yesterday?
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Old 2nd March 2020, 05:32
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^ It's good to hear that the kickboxing eased your anxiety and in turn helped you to get a decent nights sleep mutedsoul. Maybe it's something I should try



Another horrendous night
I made the big mistake of looking at the BBC News and seeing the various headlines of the tabloid papers. I don't know why they have to keep calling it a 'killer' virus. Anyone would think they enjoy panicking people. If the virus doesn't finish me off the anxiety will.
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Old 2nd March 2020, 06:22
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^ Sorry to hear you had another bad night, Consolida. I do know what it's like to lie there with your brain racing, although it's a much rarer occurrence for me these days.

I know that some of my posts may appear dismissive of the threat from coronavirus and I do believe that it's sensible to take precautions, but I try to put it into perspective: I don't know if I should say this, what with this being a group of anxiety sufferers, but statistically you're more likely to die from an accident in your kitchen or from being hit by a vehicle - the threat in this country (where only one person so far has contracted the virus whilst in the UK) is among the lowest worldwide.

I know that you have other matters closer to home on your mind right now and this probably means that, in a heightened state of anxiety, you're more affected by this than you might be at another time. I hope that you're able to get a decent night's sleep soon, whatever's on your mind.

If it makes you feel any better, when Trump was talking about the first death in USA from the virus, one of the factors which apparently made the victim more at risk was that she was MY AGE! I'm not even 60 yet and suddenly I'm in a vulnerable age group (whatever happened to 50 is the new 40!). I know, of course, that your main fear is not for yourself but for your family, particularly your mum, but honestly, it shouldn't be much more than a reminder that hand washing is good practice.

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Old 4th March 2020, 02:14
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^ Thank you, as always, for your kind words of wisdom GI

It probably wouldn't come as much of a surprise to anyone who is unfortunate enough to remember some of my previous posts that I have a tendency to obsess over health related matters. Apparently the over preoccupation with ones health and the health of loved ones is now referred to as suffering with 'health anxiety' which at least sounds less dismissive than the previous term 'Hypochondriac'.

Over the years, especially since having a child, I've experienced an increasing fear of dying and not being around to look out for my son plus the fear of losing those I love. The fear has become so all consuming that I struggle to find much enjoyment from life now. My mum's recent cancer diagnosis and now the non stop talk about the corona virus has plunged me into a depression and no matter how much I try to rationalise the situation I can't shake off this impending feeling of doom

As I'm not that many years younger than you GI I have to admit that the thought of you being in a vulnerable age group isn't particularly a comforting thought

I am always appreciative of your kind words though

I've always been an avid hand washer and if I have to use a public toilet I'll often attempt to open and shut the door with my foot or elbow rather than my hand. That said, I still caught an awful flu virus a couple of years ago

Apart from everyone increasing their general hygiene I guess there's not a lot else that we can do and the rest is up to our immune systems to sort out
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Old 4th March 2020, 05:43
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^ I think health anxiety is different to hypochondria, or maybe the distinction is in my mind? I think of the latter as a condition of which sufferers believe they have certain illnesses, rather than worrying about catching them (although I'm sure many hypochondriacs do that too).

I wasn't in any way trying to invalidate your concerns, merely to offer some perspective. I hadn't realised that people were panic-buying to that extent (or maybe it's just Tesco shoppers, it's quite rare that I shop there) but, in my area at least, hand sanitizer is readily available in most shops so the Tesco shortage is probably temporary.

I have noticed this morning, though, that there a couple of small signs up at the airport relating to coronavirus.

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Old 4th March 2020, 12:03
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^ Nooo I didn't think for one second that you were trying to invalidate my concerns and I apologise if it came across that way

It's only recently that I've heard people using the term 'health anxiety' so I typed it into google and the first thing that came up was...

Health anxiety - NHS
18 Feb 2020 · Health anxiety (hypochondria) is when worry about your health starts to take over your life. Includes advice about symptoms and treatments.


I imagine over googling everything is a symptom of 'health anxiety' too
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Old 4th March 2020, 15:15
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*smiling at the thought of Consolida using the same ninja techniques that I use not to touch anything in a public toilet*

I'm worried about the virus too Mostly for my husband who looks strong but in reality has a rare illness that makes him very susceptible to stress and illness, he had to be hospitalised last time he caught a stomach bug.

Also he's one of those annoying people (so unlike myself lol) who won't miss work for anything, so even if there's a link to the virus there he would probably still go in

I hope you sleep better tonight, Consolida, and get a proper rest x
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Old 4th March 2020, 22:57
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^ I can understand why you are particularly worried about your husband Nanuq. I would suspect that if there was a link to the virus at his workplace himself and his colleagues would be given no choice but to stay at home for a period of time. I think a lot of people will start working from home where possible if the situation escalates before getting better (I'm feeling hopeful)

Although my mum is very old and could be described as having had a good innings it doesn't stop me from worrying about her. I'm now trying very hard to take on a more pragmatic approach after getting myself into an absolute panic the other night and am hoping that this virus may bring communities together albeit only if they are wearing gloves and have anxiouslondoners gold fish bowls over their heads

Wishing you a lovely restful nights sleep too Nanuq xx
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Old 6th March 2020, 01:32
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Think I'll be the only one left on the forum in the end, just jabbering away to myself....

Oh well.

Fretting yet again about the flipping virus

Although I barely leave the house nowadays I've washed my hands so much that they are chapped and sore. However, my teen, who is always out and about, and regularly uses public transport told me that he didn't wash his hands on arrival at College today because there was no time and that there is no sanitiser in the toilets anyway. He certainly isn't a dirty lad and it's the same with the other students but apparently he even ate his lunch without washing his hands beforehand. Wtf!!!! If the country is so worried about the spread of Corona then why can't easily accessible hand sanitisers (similar to those in hospitals) be provided to schools and colleges?

I know I'm a neurotic nutter but I'm besides myself with worry.

Then there's my ill but very independent mother who is still insisting on using public transport and going into busy public places. Neither of them have any hand sanitiser which you can carry around with you and use on the go because greedy folk have cleared the shop shelves of it, probably to sell online for immorally extortionate prices.

Anyhow, I was rummaging around in a draw and came across a small travel sized hand sanitiser that I bought a year or two ago. Now I'm deliberating whether I should give it to my son or my mother. My heart immediately tells me to give it to my son, but my head says I should give it to my mother who being old and ill is extremely vulnerable

I HATE everything about life right now and want to at least be able to sleep for awhile so I can temporarily escape from my thoughts and worries but I can't sleep because my mind refuses to switch itself off
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Old 6th March 2020, 07:39
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^ the risk is still incredibly low at this time. Your son and mother are extremely unlikely to cross paths with anyone carrying Coronavirus.
Actually I would think it better to give your son the sanitizer because he's more likely to catch the virus from close proximity with other people and then pass it on to someone else in the family. Except chances are he won't use it. But in both cases the risk is very very low at the present time.
Sorry that's probably not as reassuring as it is supposed to be.
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Old 6th March 2020, 10:55
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It's a horrible worry, isn't it, Consolida?

I was really ill yesterday, just achy, sore throat etc and a headache which normally would just mean taking some paracetamol, but because it was in the news yesterday that two people in our post code have been confirmed as having the virus I spent ages worrying I had caught it snd then worrying I'd passed it on to my dad, who is 82 and has chronic bronchitis

I went to bed in the afternoon and felt better when I got up and realised I was probably fine, but the fact it's in the local area is really frightening. We went to parents evening yesterday and at one point one of the teachers shook our hands and as we walked away my husband fished some hand sanitiser out of his pocket and we cleaned our hands We did it sneakily but it still felt so rude!!

I have thought of losing my parents to it, losing my husband to it, or my children losing us all and we haven't ever written a will, so haven't allocated guardians for them if we were to die.

I know that statistically the risk is probably still very low, but it's hard not to worry about these things and the 'what ifs' I will be very glad to see the back of this horrible winter.
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Old 6th March 2020, 11:04
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^^ Your words are actually very reassuring AL and I appreciate you taking the time to respond x

I gave the hand sanitiser to my son as he was leaving for college this morning as I figured, like you, that he is the family member most likely to come into contact with the virus and possibly pass it on to my mother.

If I find out he hasn't used it today I shan't be a happy bunny
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Old 6th March 2020, 11:34
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@ Nanuq - I'm glad to know that I'm not the only person here worrying so much about all of this, although of course I wish you wasn't so worried because I know how utterly horrible it feels to get in such a state about it

Like your dad, my mum is in poor health. She is 85, has Emphysema, and the other week was diagnosed with a type of incurable bone cancer. I also worry about my son and husband who are my entire world and my reason for living. And if something happens to me my son will have no parent although my husband is an absolutely fantastic stepdad who I know will always look out for him. But if something happened to my husband as well as me then my son has absolutely nobody at all. I even worry when my husband and myself go out in the car incase there's a fatal accident and my son is left with no one. This way of thinking is making me ill but I can't stop it.

It's been made worse by the fact that a school just 10 minutes away was closed down for a 'deep clean' after a child's relative supposedly came down with the virus.

Btw, I don't think it's rude of you at all to sanitise your hands after shaking a teachers hand. It's a sensible and responsible thing to do under the circumstances especially as your husband has suffered with health issues. In some places people are no longer shaking hands and are banging their feet together instead!

I know I'm worrying excessively but I do think some people aren't taking it anywhere near as seriously as they perhaps should be. I guess there has to be a happy median between the two extremes.
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Old 13th March 2020, 03:25
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I think I'm the only insomniac non stop worrier SAUK'er

Worrying non stop about my mum. I was afraid of losing her to the emphysema and the cancer, now I'm afraid of losing her far sooner to the virus. We keep being told that only the elderly and people with serious underlying health problems are vulnerable as if that's meant to lessen your fear and bring some comfort. Well, it doesn't

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Old 13th March 2020, 03:32
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Argh! I've finally started worrying about coronavirus after the news today. Also, I don't want to give it to my dad now he's all old and stuff. I shouldn't even still be living here. But now doesn't seem like a great time to move, or even get a job outside the house (my attempts so far have been rebuffed, and now I'm thinking, eh, the timing is not so bad!) Just thinking out loud really. Seeing how nervous politicians sound is making me nervous (they suddenly seem human for once.) Yeah, if you are elderly/ill or worried about someone who is, it's not a great comfort!

Also, how can I stop touching my face without thinking? I'm kind of a fidgeter. I keep washing my hands OCD style, but no hand san to be had. I guess I'm doing my bit by plenty of 'self-isolating'. Who would have thought it would be unusually pro-social behaviour?
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Old 13th March 2020, 09:09
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The politicians are sounding worried because cabinet ministers are having to self-isolate - plus, having a crisis distracts the public from other matters and in a sense, this couldn't have come at a better time for a Prime Minister who has no idea what he is doing. In previous times, this would have unified the country and enhanced our sense of community, but a culture of every person for themselves has developed, hence the hoarding and profiteering.

It's pointless for me to say this on an anxiety forum, but concerns for Covid-19 should be kept in proportion; of course, we should all be aware of it and continue to take precautions, but the chances of contracting it still remain pretty low. As choirgirl already mentioned, as a community a lot of us are already pretty good at self-isolating (maybe the meek will inherit the earth?).

I know some of you may think I'm being pretty blase about this, but of course I have concerns - it's relatively easy for me too because I don't have any elderly relatives to consider - I'm the elderly one in my social circle! Also, I haven't (yet) come into contact with someone who knows someone who knows someone who knows someone who suspects they may have it - once that sort of thing happens, it becomes far more real.

Please try to keep your concerns in proportion, take precautions and keep an eye on local news to see how it's affecting your area - but lying awake at night is only likely to make things worse, especially if tiredness / being run down impacts on your immune system! Also, if you're getting a cold, don't start worrying that it's coronavirus - from what I've read, there are no other symptoms (like a runny nose etc.) initially than a dry cough, with respiratory issues (possibly from the outset, maybe later) and a fever later. It may be the only time anyone is happy to have a runny nose!

I do think the government could be doing more (quite frankly, the response has been a disgrace) to stop the spread but the risk in the UK is still low and people are self-isolating early if symptoms appear. The chances are that none of us will come into contact with it - but those of you who are concerned about passing it to more vulnerable family members might like to think about arranging contingency plans so you can self-isolate away from them (or move them away from you, if that's easier). For most, that's probably the most difficult thing logistically.

Start panicking when the delivery drivers from Tesco and Just-eat (other supermarkets and takeaway delivery services are available) are all self-isolating!

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Old 16th March 2020, 06:35
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^ Wise words as always GI, although I wish I was better at following them!

I try to rationalise things in my head but every time I look at the latest news reports I start to feel panicky all over again. The World crisis appears to be escalating by the minute. Country after country is under lock down and yet it almost feels like business as usual here - accept we all know it's not. My teen has just been told that he must extend his hours at College in preparation for exams. He also has a job interview coming up in retail but should he go or not? All the advice coming out at the moment is so conflicting and it's doing my head in. Meanwhile, my elderly in-laws are stuck out in Cyprus not sure if they will get back home.

I know some people (judging by comments on social media) think the crisis is a storm in a teacup blah, blah, blah, but there are A LOT of frightened folk out there, some of them old and extremely vulnerable
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Old 16th March 2020, 06:40
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^ Sorry, I have no idea what caused the corona thread to be removed (I miss all the excitement!) but I am happy to delete the above post if it's too triggering for anyone
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Old 16th March 2020, 07:11
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I tried to stay away from coronavirus news last evening. It worked and I was calm with a bit of worry still. I think this is a good time for mindfulness, meditation and stuff. We can do what we can to lower the effects of coronavirus by watching our hygiene, keeping our health and immune systems strong etc. But the virus is out of our control so it doesn’t make sense to worry too much about it, although we would.
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Old 16th March 2020, 07:36
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^ I think I will have to reduce the time I spend on social media and watching the news because the non stop talk about a virus that we can personally do little about (apart from the sensible examples you give) are taking there toll on my mental health, which was never top notch to begin with, lol.
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Old 21st March 2020, 08:04
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Yet another night of zero sleep

I wouldn't mind, but I've got to get up soon to try and get some bits that my mum wants from the shops because she is self isolating. I wouldn't be safe to drive on no sleep so thankfully my husband is coming with me. My son has a driving lesson today but surely it can't be good for him to be cooped up in a small car with an instructor who isn't fussed about personal hygiene? And a car that has numerous learners in it throughout the day? The instructor isn't the type to disinfect the steering wheel and the gear stick after each lesson.

Also worrying about something not directly Corona related. We bought one of those huge boxes of cat food yesterday from pets at home and took it round to our neighbour who rescues and fosters cats and dogs. The Hubby invited us to go in but his wife was quick to stop us and so we chatted briefly on the doorstep. I thought it was because of the potential to catch the virus but as neither us or them are in the particularly vulnerable age range (40's to early 50's) I've let my mind run away with me and am thinking that it was because I'm regarded as the weird neighbour across the street. Bah, even when there's more important things to worry about my stupid SA thoughts take over.
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Old 21st March 2020, 08:20
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^ It's probably not about being in a vulnerable age range, is it? It's more about reducing the potential to pass it on. It sounds like they were just being sensible since if one of you four had it without knowing you could have passed it to two other people who could pass it to others and so on. I wouldn't worry about it - sounds like they were trying to be safe
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Old 21st March 2020, 09:30
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Can't sleep either not due to Corona panic that I lead a pretty mundane isolated life anyway and usually eat the same food that apart from the cinema being closed and supermarket stocks low with something's it has been pretty normal.
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Old 22nd March 2020, 00:41
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^^ No, you are right.
I was being completely irrational and letting my SA thoughts take over.
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Old 29th March 2020, 01:11
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Struggling to get to sleep lately, though I am not waking up during the night which is a blessing.
I think it's just the lack of activity during the day
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Old 30th March 2020, 09:39
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Oh my goodness, was up most of the night with painful stomach cramps. Ouch. Completely exhausted now.
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Old 30th March 2020, 09:53
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^ hope you're alright Biscuits!
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Old 30th March 2020, 10:12
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Oh, yes. I am fine thank you . Just tiyood!
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Old 9th April 2020, 01:07
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I’m wide awake, not that it matters as every day may as well be a Sunday atm
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Old 9th April 2020, 01:29
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^ same! It feels like it's only 7pm or something. My head's well and truly pickled at the moment so I'm really not sleepy at all. I really fancy a cup of tea but don't want to wake anyone up, plus who even has tea at 1am?

Oh well, at least it means managing to gain a shopping spot on the Cadbury website.
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