How is everyone feeling? (31)

[Counterpoint]

^that sounds interesting. Do you coach people to talk in front of people?!

[Avalon]

^ What's happened Kooky Monster?
I hope all of your cats are okay?


Thank you Nanuq, D1662 and limey for your kind thoughts x


I had my blood test on Tuesday and apparently have to wait 4 working days for the results. In the meantime my mind is running riot and I'm continuing to look up various symptoms I'm experiencing on the Internet. I would say this is driving me crazy accept I was already pretty crazy. Going to the Doctors is seriously bad for my health

[Mo34]

^ Hopefully it'll be something easy to sort.

Originally Posted by Counterpoint

^that sounds interesting. Do you coach people to talk in front of people?!

No, I was doing some peer mentoring, so just providing general/moral support. The guy I was supporting is a part of this organisation which :

Outside In is a catalyst for change. Founded in 2006, it is now an established national charity that aims to provide a platform for artists who face significant barriers to the art world due to health, disability, social circumstance or isolation.

It seems to have been founded in Chichester but they have exhibitions in London and elsewhere as well as Pallant House Gallery in Chi. D has sold a few of his paintings for a couple of grand through exhibits.

I found it quite interesting, there was able ppl there but also some disabled ppl. A Russian lady who had suffered a terrible brain injury and found art as it was the only way she could explain her now unusual visual impairment to health professionals. A deaf lady who used to love music but can no longer hear so communicates/expresses herself through colour.
It was all very inspiring.


https://outsidein.org.uk/

Originally Posted by Kooky Monster

Devastated.

Hope your ok.

[newbs16]

^^I would imagine if anything shows up your gp will refer to a consultant. I hope you don't have to wait too long, g hope there isn't anything wrong.

[Appear]

Meeting Guy tonight but not feeling very sparkly. Not sure how engaging playful mode (not a euphemism) is going to go.

[Schmosby]

^ I just got covered in sparkling wine. Had to go shower.

I was having a pretty ok day before that.

[Schmosby]

All she does is drink alcohol and try to upset people, I think turd fits her well.

[Schmosby]

I don't feel bad for what I call her. I do feel sorry for her, because she's completely pathetic. She's unable to control or hide her disgusting personality, her leftist/feminism or her alcohol consumption, she always makes terrible decisions. It must be saddening to know you've been a complete failure throughout your life and that nobody likes you...for her anyway, given she's so horribly needy.

[Schmosby]

^You only think that because you don't know her. People that know her just dislike her and they are quite right to do so.

^^ Yes, I don't think making everybody including your own children dislike you should be a life goal.

[Dougella]

Originally Posted by Schmosby

I don't feel bad for what I call her. I do feel sorry for her, because she's completely pathetic. She's unable to control or hide her disgusting personality, her leftist/feminism or her alcohol consumption, she always makes terrible decisions. It must be saddening to know you've been a complete failure throughout your life and that nobody likes you...for her anyway, given she's so horribly needy.

I think the problem is her alcoholism not any leftwing/feminist views she might have. Addiction is a disease, it's something people can't control when they're in the midst of it, I think that's a reason to feel sorry for someone (not an excuse for abusive behaviour though, ofcourse).

[Schmosby]

Originally Posted by something55

I know that if she left everything in her will to a cat sanctuary she'd be quite right to do so.

You think a bad person leaving everything in her will to a cat sanctuary rather than the children she chose to abuse would be quite right

[Schmosby]

Originally Posted by Dougella

I think the problem is her alcoholism not any leftwing/feminist views she might have. Addiction is a disease, it's something people can't control when they're in the midst of it, I think that's a reason to feel sorry for someone (not an excuse for abusive behaviour though, ofcourse).

As I've said before, there's no reason to ever drink alcohol in the first place, it's not vital like food. Drinking regularly enough to become addicted is a choice, therefore addiction is a choice. If we were talking about food addiction that would be another matter. Addicts always have the option to quit too, they are not helpless victims.

[Dougella]

^No, there isn't but most people do and if someone has significant amounts of emotional pain or trauma they're much more likely to become an addict. No-one would chose to be an alcoholic if they could make that choice! Now accepting help for it, that is another matter yes.

[Mo34]

Originally Posted by Nanuq

ooh, I wonder if it's something I could become involved with? Sounds really interesting, you seem to find such brilliant things to get involved with, Mo!

Originally Posted by Nanuq

I just had a look at their site and I think I would fit the criteria

Well I can't take the credit, I only know of it because of Mind.

It seems like a really great organisation, from what I know of it.

[Mo34]

So my neighbour came back today, music is playing - enough to be a nuisance but not enough if environmental health recorded. He's left it like that and gone off.

[Percy]

Originally Posted by Schmosby

As I've said before, there's no reason to ever drink alcohol in the first place, it's not vital like food. Drinking regularly enough to become addicted is a choice, therefore addiction is a choice. If we were talking about food addiction that would be another matter. Addicts always have the option to quit too, they are not helpless victims.

Addiction is a recognized mental health condition. Chances are an alcoholic didn't choose to be addicted and didn't drink to become addicted but whatever emotional pain he/she suffered has led him/her into that addiction.

Otherwise it's the same logic that claims homeless or mentally ill people choose to be homeless or mentally ill.

[Schmosby]

Originally Posted by Percy

Otherwise it's the same logic that claims homeless or mentally ill people choose to be homeless or mentally ill.

Not at all. You can be left homeless against your will and be mentally ill against your will. You cannot become addicted to alcohol without choosing to regularly aquire and consume alcohol. That is 100% a choice. If you choose not to consume alcohol you will not become addicted.

[Mo34]

Originally Posted by Schmosby

Not at all. You can be left homeless against your will and be mentally ill against your will. You cannot become addicted to alcohol without choosing to regularly aquire and consume alcohol. That is 100% a choice. If you choose not to consume alcohol you will not become addicted.

Absolutely wrong. I had to put up with a load of abuse and neglect as a child. My mother drank because she was raped as a 14 year old and then again when she in her 30's walking home alone in Glasgow. The culture of the times meant she had to be quiet and live in shame. She drank because she couldn't cope with the trauma. Anyone who chooses to obliterate themselves without a cultural party mentality usually has a reason. You can be an addict for a multitude of reasons.

[Indigo_]

Originally Posted by something55

I do. When the intentions/motives of the children hanging around and deciding to live in their homes as fully grown adults are not genuine as proven by your constant vitriol.

This is what I don't understand. From your posts Schmosby you seem to hate your mother, yet you continue to live with her?

[Percy]

Originally Posted by Schmosby

Not at all. You can be left homeless against your will and be mentally ill against your will. You cannot become addicted to alcohol without choosing to regularly aquire and consume alcohol. That is 100% a choice. If you choose not to consume alcohol you will not become addicted.

So do you deny addiction is an illness?

[Schmosby]

@Mo Your point doesn't counter mine. Your experience doesn't change the mechanics of becoming an alcoholic, you do have to actively choose it unless someone holds you down and forces it down your throat.

We both suffered trauma due to our mothers and we have not chosen to produce children, become alcoholics and abuse those children. Both were a choice that our mothers did make and they are fully responsible.

[Mo34]

I have no idea whether or not your post is in answer to me or someone else.

Many ppl drink, which I will grant you is a choice -but so is self harming or starving yourself if your anorexic. It is indicative of something being wrong with a person one way or another.

[Schmosby]

Originally Posted by something55

I do. When the intentions/motives of the children hanging around and deciding to live in their homes as fully grown adults are not genuine as proven by your constant vitriol.

So you're only in support of child abuse if the abused child doesn't move out of the home within an arbitrary time period of your choosing and the abused child remains unvitriolic regarding the abuse?

Sounds like a solid stance to me

[Dougella]

^ But when you're an adult with a full time job you have the choice of whether you live with your abusive parent don't you? It's completely understandable for someone who had been abused by a parent to have very negative feelings towards them. But to continue to live in the same house while expressing such dislike to that person is a bit harder to understand.


Also I'm not sure your ideas about how people become alcoholics quite stand up. Lots of people are given alcohol by their parents when they're not even adults yet. It's not always a clear choice to start drinking like you say.

[Percy]

Feeling low atm, suicidal urges are hitting me hard.

[Dougella]

^ I'm sorry you're struggling

[Schmosby]

Originally Posted by Percy

So do you deny addiction is an illness?

This is getting straw man.

Addiction to alcohol is completely avoidable, as alcohol is completely avoidable.

Drugs such as alcohol, tobacco and illegal drugs are optional, many people choose to go through their whole lives without touching any and have therefore faced no risk of becoming addicted.

[Percy]

Originally Posted by Schmosby

This is getting straw man.

Addiction to alcohol is completely avoidable, as alcohol is completely avoidable.

Drugs such as alcohol, tobacco and illegal drugs are optional, many people choose to go through their whole lives without touching any and have therefore faced no risk of becoming addicted.

But if you claim alcoholism is a choice then surely you must be denying that it's even an illness. Alcoholism is a recognised as an illness yet you say it's a choice. Do you include gaming addiction, pornography or sex and addictions of choice? I'm genuinely curious.

[Chocolate Chin]

^You're banging your head against a metaphorical brick wall.

[anewyear]

Currently got that guilty feeling of someone offering something ("I've got some spare tickets..") me saying "thanks but no thanks" and then not getting a reply back in return. If that were me I'd be replying and saying "ah never mind then :-)". Instead I now feel like I've done something offensive or missed out on a massive opportunity.