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Old 9th September 2018, 12:20
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Default Even people with high verbal intelligence can have difficulties

I am fairly articulate and have high verbal intelligence. People such as mental health professionals and non professionals see that and don't consider I may have difficulties, namely executive functioning and non-verbal /spatial. I wish people realised that even those who are highly verbal can have difficulties/problems.
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Old 10th September 2018, 22:42
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I'm the same. Although I sometimes get my verbals muddled, but not that often. The good thing is that people take you seriously in life in general, which is definitely a good thing. There have been times I've needed to advocate for myself (including getting medical help) and if I was lacking in this area I would have really struggled. So I'm certainly not going to complain about any area which is not deficient.

Also, it sucks being treated as stupid. People give you the benefit of the doubt if you are articulate until they see you doing something stupid. It's actually better this way around than being thought stupid because you are lacking ability in one area.
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Old 10th September 2018, 23:05
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It’s also really disheartening when health care professionals don’t believe you are struggling because you have developed lots of masking strategies to get by. They see the masking as successful coping strategies. It seems to be that you can only really seek support if you’re at rock bottom, rather than when you’re beginning to sink. That’s jut an observation - obv. the services are stretched thinly.
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Old 10th September 2018, 23:24
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It's true. I got cbt a few years back when I was very low. In fact, I claimed I was suicidal although I only was very briefly and skipped the queue. It was like, you had to answer yes to the question about having suicidal thoughts and oh there you go - cbt within six weeks for you! The trouble is, when you're rock bottom it can be difficult to organise yourself enough to get treatment. The worst thing with medical professionals in general is the fact that you seem 'normal' or 'getting by' or somewhat functional is a sign of - go away, come back when you have a real problem. But they don't see the cost of the masking strategies as you say, the toll it takes, and over time problems can compound so it gets to a stage where one day you can't cope.
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Old 11th September 2018, 14:57
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While still living in Essex I was assessed for ESA. The supporting letter from a junior psychiatrist said I had "Limited ability to live independently in the community" Did I get much support? No. No CPN . No social worker. Just fortnightly injections and a 6 monthly appointment with the nurse practitioner.

I moved here nearly a year ago. Very quickly my stepdaughter emphasised that I needed social support. Would my current trust have done anything without my stepdaughter pushing for it ? Almost certainly ,no. As it is I now get 3 hours support from a care agency towards keeping my flat tidy and shopping. If I pressed for help with social activities I'd probably get more but would probably have to start paying.

Here in Wiltshire everyone is given a care plan and a care coordinator unlike in Essex(Mine is my regular depot nurse) . My care plan says the support is to enable me to continue living independently.

I also get a lot of support from my stepdaughter and granddaughters now I'm living near them. It seems that family often have to take up the slack re the lack of support from mental health and social services. Of course it all depends if you have family able and willing to do that.

Services very much focus on acute cases(Danger to self or others, alcohol or drug addiction) . If you are none of those things and are coping but barely that's seen as being good enough to put you on autopilot/the back of the filing cabinet for help and support. This is despite the fact that those who are non acute ,but functioning inadequately, are less likely to have good periods than someone who has an acute episode punctuated by periods of good functioning.
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Old 11th September 2018, 19:57
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^ Good point there about the level of support being dependent on where you live. Post code lottery and all that.

Do you feel like you get the level of support that you need? (I hope that doesn't sound rude, I mean are you satisfied with it.)
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Old 11th September 2018, 20:18
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In as much as I'm not actively pressing to do social groups I probably get near enough enough. I know they worry about me not socialising, but I'm quite asocial. In no small part due to the fact I find social interaction rather difficult.
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