What makes a person worthy?

[Cookie-Monster]

As the title says, what makes a person worthy? Is a jobless, unlikeable, unsuccessful loser with no friends (someone like me) just as worthy as a rich, influential and popular executive of a big company? Sorry if this sort of question has come up before.

[Eraserhead]

Erm, it's all very subjective...something like this.

Was that any help?

[Wol]

Worthy of what?

[Cookie-Monster]

Originally Posted by Eraserhead

Erm, it's all very subjective...something like this.

Was that any help?

Yeah. I keep telling myself that but its very difficult to really internalise it. I find it difficult to believe that I really am equal to a highly popular or successful person, or that I am a valuable individual despite not having any friends at all. I suffer from a very low self esteem and inferiority complex as you may have realised.

[Cookie-Monster]

Originally Posted by Wol

Worthy of what?

Good question. I guess it relates to whether someone is a valuable individual or not.

[artist23]

Originally Posted by Cookie-Monster

Good question. I guess it relates to whether someone is a valuable individual or not.

we are not worthy of you

[Wol]

Originally Posted by Cookie-Monster

Good question. I guess it relates to whether someone is a valuable individual or not.

Isn't value just another word for worth?
I am not sure that words like worth and value can be applied to people.
I suppose society might value one person more than another, but really what is being valued is the person's actions rather than the person.
A doctor might seem more valuable than a criminal, but isn't it the doctoring and the crime that are really being compared.

What is a new born baby 'worth'??

[Blumoon]

Everybody surely worth someone..well obviously i thtink i'm not worth anyone..but there is people out there that will like you no matter how bad things are..(supposedly) i don't have a job, money..i hold out hope that somebody might be interested in me for who i am (unlikely)

[Blumoon]

Originally Posted by Blue Haze

^ I'm sure there's plenty of people interested in you.

I'd sure like them to tell me xD I don't know. I hope so anyways..(if i was annoyed with myself i'd say nobody does so this is a positive step) :L

[brian_maiden]

A person's job, how successful they are, how popular they are etc don't make someone a good person... you can have all that stuff but if you're not a good person, you're not worth anything...

[Wol]

How good a person do I need to be to be worth something?
Is there a cut off point of goodness below which I am worthless? or is it a sliding scale?
I am not a good person, I am not a bad person, I have done good, bad and indifferent things in my life.
Where can I see the account book so I can check if I am in credit?

[Shanibandangle]

In an ideal world - being kind of heart, and helping others.

It depends on the individual on what they think makes a person worthy. There is no right or wrong answer. Some answers will be shallow but they'll fit around what that person wants in life.

[oXPureSilenceXo]

It all depends on you, the indervidual.
Do you think your worthy?..
I am sure some people out there will look down on you and class you as not worthy, then theres some who will think your worthy of everything.
It's the same when it comes down to looks, personality ect ect.
The main thing is, is to be happy with yourself.

[Shanibandangle]

Originally Posted by Cynic

Obviouslly not.

What are you talking about! Of course they're every bit as worthy as an individual. The attributes described doesn't mean they should be any lower in self value. If they had killed somebody, or committed mass fraud, then maybe, yes.

[Raks]

I've had this debate in my mind many times. I've also spoken to a counsellor about it.

My counsellor drew up a rough scale, 0 to 100 - and asked me to write down all the people that i thought were worthy and the others who were unworthy.

The counsellor went through the list with me.. and he made me REALISE that the people i considered highly probably didn't have very many friends..... possibly none at all. so does that mean you need friends to be considered a good 'worthy' person? no.

You have to measure your success's and failures within - not by what anyone else says, because they don't know you or your life circumstances. What you've been through or why you are where you are today.

[marki]

Originally Posted by Cookie-Monster

Yeah. I keep telling myself that but its very difficult to really internalise it. I find it difficult to believe that I really am equal to a highly popular or successful person, or that I am a valuable individual despite not having any friends at all. I suffer from a very low self esteem and inferiority complex as you may have realised.

Comparing yourself to a high flying businessman is so not a good idea. Not because they are "better" than you but because they live in a completely different world to you. So you are jobless right? How are you reacting to that? Are you going round snarling at people blaming everybody else and generally being a pain in society's backside? Or are you doing your best in difficult circumstances and trying to keep your dignity? I hope its something akin to the second one. If so i say worthy

[Cookie-Monster]

Thanks for the helpful response people.

I found a related thread if anybody else is interested in this question - http://www.social-anxiety-community....ad.php?t=26724

[indiegirl1980]

Superficially, the high flying businessman will be more respected in the eyes of the world, even though he may be a horrible person.
Infact, he is quite likely to be a horrible person, as you don't get ahead in business by being nice to people.
Think of all the bankers you read about, they sound like such charmers, don't they (ahem).
In fact, the OP may be more worthy of respect as he is actually the better man as he hasn't trampled all over people and screwed people over to get ahead, whereas the businessman probably did.