MEN: Where do you place yourself on the Alpha-Beta-Omega male scale ?

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Originally Posted by Municipal waste

Wurd up dawg. Although I didn't find his anecdote all that entertaining I'd agree with you bruv (an Alpha), on the basis of him being a stage performer and someone who is able to emamate their charisma and personality in front of an audience and take the risk of being ridiculed /booed off / have vegetables chucked at them requires alot of confidence.

No he wasn't particularly funny or amusing but I thought his message was a good one. 'What people say and think about you is not even about you, it's about them.' I think a lot of people on here could use some of that.

Originally Posted by Bugschivers

Just got to laugh and you think that I live in a fuzzy world?
Cock-blocking makes me laugh too
Pfft, total codswallop, meaningless tripe, but if that is what you want to think, go ahead.

You think cock-blocking doesn't exist then?

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So if i tried to get in the way of a girl doing her flirty flirty thing, would that be, like boob-blocking?

Should I adopt a particular stance whilst doing it?

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Like this?

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Originally Posted by kukri

So if i tried to get in the way of a girl doing her flirty flirty thing, would that be, like boob-blocking?

Should I adopt a particular stance whilst doing it?

Yes it would. But I wouldn't recommend it, it can have terrible consequences:

http://madnews.wordpress.com/2009/11...ver-gladiator/

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I don't know if urban dictionary is the best source of reference (just take a look at the rest of it) there are SA books and other introversion/extraversion books with better information, but it still goes along with what I've said in that as Omegas you're not totally written off. Self esteem, confidence, introversion/extraversion, shyness/non-shyness are the individual measurements, that will determine a position on the alpha-beta-omega scale, by working on these individual characteristics and enhancing them in a positive way you can improve overall yourself (which is obvious) and move further up to an ideal place on the scale. That doesn't have to be full-scale Alpha, at least from Omega towards Beta. People have confused the alpha-beta-omega scale in the context of animals with what is being discussed here, forget all that, obviously this here is referring to human males.

Originally Posted by deeshow

No he wasn't particularly funny or amusing but I thought his message was a good one. 'What people say and think about you is not even about you, it's about them.' I think a lot of people on here could use some of that.

A nice thought for a nice morning too

Have I seen that little fella somewhere else before, maybe in a porno film, I only watched it as a one-off You watch those movies too do you

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Originally Posted by kukri

wow, i'm going to try this tomorrow night

So... are you still in one piece then

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these things depress me....

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Originally Posted by Defiance

I do not like the really really alpha males ...the one at work kept trying to make me look bad. he paid very close attention to any female who was around and even accused me of leering at one of the supervisors ass's (he was on the right track but i wasn't checking out her ass..) anyways he tried to cockblock me each time he saw me talking to this 1 girl and i know he was just doing it for the sake of it ...not cause he liked the girl ..eventually he insulted me one too many times and every man has his limit even myself (yes i would have fought him if need be, we were physically the same size). harsh words were exchanged back and forth between us. after that incidence he seemed to have more respect for me and was more tolerable.

That sort of thing frightens me but I am a total omega. I worked in a place several years back where a guy used to cockblock me whenever he was around, once there was a girl talking to me and within the first 5 seconds the guy stepped in and cockblocked. the difference between us was as he put so much effort in to chat to girls but I just hung around in the background until a girl talked to me so there was something for me to learn from him. Thinking back on those times now I never hated the guy, he was totally beta and all his efforts to chatup girls ended up in failure anyway so just kinda felt more sorry than anything. I liked him because he was one of the very few people I could chat to, maybe because we were closer as beta and omega, if he was alpha he could have been well nasty.

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Originally Posted by Cynic

If only that were true. If it was about them, their bullying behaviour wouldn't be encouraged and rewarded like it is. If it is really about them, then how come entire groups will mob up against one individual if it is about them? It would be nice if it was, but it sounds too good to be true.

No, you are misunderstanding. Their bullying behaviour is about them. People bully because of their own insecurities. Even if a group gangs up to bully someone, it says more about them and their lack of substance than about the victim.

If you believe you deserved to be bullied for the reasons the bully gives then you are in effect making it about you. If a bully tells you I am going to bully you because you are worthless, and you agree 'Yes I am worthless' then you are giving them carte blanch to bully you and worse, you are destroying your own self-esteem. Even if you can't fight back physically, you can mentally by refusing to accept what they say about you i.e. what they say or think is about them.

Make sense now?

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Originally Posted by Cynic

Maybe they are insecure, though if they collectively select you as their target then that says more about you than about them - especially when those at the very top are complicit in the bullying.

But it doesn't say what they are thinking is true about you. What it says about you (that is 100% true) is that you are one and they are many, they are in a position of power over you. The reasons they give for bullying you are usually bullshit.

Okay, if you believe the bully then yes. However, how about when you go to other people (family, friends, peers, bystanders, authority figures etc. etc.) and they all agree with the bully? They can't all be wrong.

When does that ever happen???

If the whole group, i.e. everyone top-down agree with the bully, then there's got to be more than a grain of truth in it.

Again when does that ever happen? What? A grain of truth in their supposed reasons for bullying that person or that all members of that group have insecurities and are weak willed?

Not if you didn't have any in the first place.

Well if you allow yourself to believe that then you will never have any self-esteem. You have to start somewhere Cynic. If you really are at the bottom then the only way is up.

You can refuse all you like, but when it comes down to it, and you are the pariah, there's no getting away from it.

Nobody can control your thoughts. Your mind should be the one place you can be assured of sanctity. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise.

If only.

I agree. I hope you can give one day give yourself a break Cynic. You are a prisoner of your own mind.