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Old 25th October 2015, 22:00
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^^Sorry you feel this way SuBo. Why not seek help if you have nothing left to lose? It's got to be worth trying to do something before taking the most permanent, irreversable action. It's not inevitable if you don't do it. Please talk to someone in the hope that it will do some good.
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Old 25th October 2015, 22:05
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SuBo, it sounds like you've been through a very difficult time recently. If your feeling desperate please use one of the helplines, they're there to help.
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Old 26th October 2015, 21:55
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Thanks for all the responses. I appreciate it
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Old 29th October 2015, 02:44
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Pretty interesting documentary:

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Old 29th October 2015, 02:55
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^ Also very interesting to see the scenes in the suicide helpline centre.
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Old 31st October 2015, 02:15
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Interesting documentary about life after suicide. I don't like the argument about staying alive for other people. It makes you feel worse. See for yourself whether it endorses that viewpoint.

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Old 31st October 2015, 10:23
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Interesting point.

Every single person who has jumped from the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco (they have anti-suicide barriers they installed recently) and survived to tell the tale, says they regretted it IMMEDIATELY, as soon as they lost contact with the bridge and there was no going back. (BTW, survivors are few in number.)
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Old 31st October 2015, 10:35
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It may seem cliché, but I can honestly say, taking up mindfulness and meditation guided me out of that dark place. The evidence is not just anecdotal but also scientific. Studies show that meditation and mindfulness can alter the neurochemistry and even structure of the brain.
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Old 6th November 2015, 05:28
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Old 6th November 2015, 05:43
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Also interesting how he explores the gender aspect of suicide, which is something I think is often overlooked.

As he says in the documentary, bottling things up is a classic "male trait", which is true. This is a form of emotional repression which can be devastating.

The reason why 80% of suicide victims are male is because of these things. It is much more permissible for females to open up about their emotions, and thus receive support. When you receive support, it's much easier to cope.
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Old 8th November 2015, 12:37
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^ Are there any support agencies that could help you? Or have you already tried them?
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Old 8th November 2015, 19:58
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Around here, that's a joke - that's what I have been trying to do with the meetup group, replace the (non-existent) support agencies, but even that has floundered because although I have identified sources of funding, that funding requires a bank account and nobody will put themselves out enough to be the second signatory.

My own problems are car insurance (my car is written off by someone reversing into it but the insurance company offer is derisory and not enough to replace the car, but I have been given a "take it or leave it" ultimatum, meaning either I take the money and have no car, or don't get the car repaired), a fine for driving in a bus lane (when I entered the bus lane to avoid an accident, but because the video doesn't show all angles and is being assessed by a team 175 miles from where it happened who have no idea what driving in London is actually like, I can't prove that I was actually doing the right thing, while these things are no longer decided in a proper court and there is no right of appeal) and eviction because my house needs cleaning (for which I haven't had time because I was trying to sort out the matter about which I can't speak and now is almost impossible because I have a really heavy cold and just don't have the energy to do more than tidy up) - and there is no support agency to help with matters of that sort.
I'm very sorry to read all this Ian. It sounds like you are getting bombarded at the moment. As you know, there are times like this in life. Just have to keep going, as best as you can, and it will get better. Take a little time to do something to relax. I find that when I have lots of problems I'm trying to solve, it can help to step away from the question(s) and then return when you are not feeling so vulnerable.
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Old 8th November 2015, 21:03
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I attempted suicide when I hit a really low point after graduating last year. I bought everything I needed for the 'exit bag' method and it proved to be unsuccesful. I waited for 10 minutes with the bag over my head and nothing! I later read articles from Dignitas reporting different timescales for unconsciousness. I will probably try again at some point.

I recently visited my Advanced Nurse Practioner (these people can prescribe psychiatric meds) at a Mental Health Clinic. I told him I was very unhappy about my appearance and that this has been one of the root causes of my depression. His response was perhaps a little tactless considering his profession and his knowledge of my self harming habits/suicidal tendencies: "Very few people are oil paintings. You'll get over it."

*sigh*
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Old 8th November 2015, 21:11
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Hope everyone is feeling a little bit better today x
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Old 8th November 2015, 21:19
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That's an incredibly unhelpful and insensitive response MrsJones Anyone (particularly a mental health professional) who tells someone to "get over" anything related to mental health shouldn't be in the job in the first place.

I've been wondering if I'm in the beginning stages of depression. Would I know for definite one way or the other? Is it typical for someone to get depression three months after the death of a loved one? Maybe it is. I feel rather flat and emotionless and my typical response to most things these days is "I don't care." I'm still getting up and going to work and dragging myself through each and every day, but mostly, I just don't give a s***.

I recognise that I'm suicidal, and I have been for a short while now. I had fight, and I had determination to push through this and keep going, and for some reason, that's all just left me.

I've been meaning to post in here for a while but I've been putting it off I guess.
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Old 8th November 2015, 21:54
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That's an incredibly unhelpful and insensitive response MrsJones Anyone (particularly a mental health professional) who tells someone to "get over" anything related to mental health shouldn't be in the job in the first place.

I've been wondering if I'm in the beginning stages of depression. Would I know for definite one way or the other? Is it typical for someone to get depression three months after the death of a loved one? Maybe it is. I feel rather flat and emotionless and my typical response to most things these days is "I don't care." I'm still getting up and going to work and dragging myself through each and every day, but mostly, I just don't give a s***.

I recognise that I'm suicidal, and I have been for a short while now. I had fight, and I had determination to push through this and keep going, and for some reason, that's all just left me.

I've been meaning to post in here for a while but I've been putting it off I guess.
I'm sorry to hear this also Sunshine. It certainly is natural to have a delayed reaction to losing a loved one. Any sort of bereavement can take time to surface. I'm sorry I can not offer any better advice, but things can change in a good way and can do so quickly. Just take it slow and be gentle on yourself. Think of what you enjoy doing and make time to do those things. Try not to spend too much time ruminating on sad thoughts/feelings and distract the mind. Anyways, you are not alone.
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Old 8th November 2015, 21:56
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That's an incredibly unhelpful and insensitive response MrsJones Anyone (particularly a mental health professional) who tells someone to "get over" anything related to mental health shouldn't be in the job in the first place.

I've been wondering if I'm in the beginning stages of depression. Would I know for definite one way or the other? Is it typical for someone to get depression three months after the death of a loved one? Maybe it is. I feel rather flat and emotionless and my typical response to most things these days is "I don't care." I'm still getting up and going to work and dragging myself through each and every day, but mostly, I just don't give a s***.

I recognise that I'm suicidal, and I have been for a short while now. I had fight, and I had determination to push through this and keep going, and for some reason, that's all just left me.

I've been meaning to post in here for a while but I've been putting it off I guess.
HS That does sound like depression, especially if you're feeling suicidal. We're here for you. I'm here for you This will pass, no matter how moronic that sounds at the moment, but it will. You've been through a lot so it isn't surprising that you're feeling like this.
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Old 8th November 2015, 22:04
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Thank you Cognitive and SuBo. Your posts have helped, truly

I just hate feeling like this.
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Old 8th November 2015, 22:36
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DG - it is completely normal to feel the way you do under the circumstances. It does sound like you are depressed. I know its not the same but I lost a close work colleague and yes I can say I loved her, told her everything about how I felt about life. After she died I felt anger, I felt upset and annoyed that others were carrying on as though nothing had happened, I then spent mornings before and evenings after work crying about it then I felt numb. I still don't know what I prefer...the feeling depressed and no point to life or just feeling numb, nothing at all.

If you are feeling depressed, please speak to your doctor. They can offer medication and counselling. It is a difficult process and at times you will feel worse but eventually you will start to feel better. You deserve to be happy DG and things can improve.

Nobody will ever replace Martin, but you will learn to accept things and be happy again in time.

I was very against anti depressants for years, but having found the right one I only wish I had gone on them sooner.

Look after yourself DG and I am here if you want to chat. X
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Old 8th November 2015, 22:40
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^ that is a lovely reply custard, I often think of you and Martin x
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Old 9th November 2015, 20:36
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Thank you CC, and for Newbs, for thinking of the both of us.

I just don't know what to do to be honest Work is absolutely my saving grace and has been for the past couple of months. I dread to think what I'd be like now if I didn't have work to occupy me everyday. At work I'm motivated, chatty and I'm fine really. It's coping away from work that can be the problem at times.

I really don't want to go on anti-depressants. I feel like because I'm already on medication for migraine I just don't want to add more pills to the mix. Maybe that's a silly excuse, I don't know. Is it stupid to think I can get through this without visiting my gp? All I know is that I don't want to visit my gp.
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Old 10th November 2015, 15:08
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At work I'm motivated, chatty and I'm fine really. It's coping away from work that can be the problem at times.
Well its great to hear there are plenty of positives . If you’re struggling outside work, maybe just get some distractions in place, movies (comedies?), books (anything uplifting?), music (load of upbeat stuff around) – plus plenty of people on here you can chat to or PM if needs be.

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I really don't want to go on anti-depressants. I feel like because I'm already on medication for migraine I just don't want to add more pills to the mix. Maybe that's a silly excuse, I don't know. Is it stupid to think I can get through this without visiting my gp? All I know is that I don't want to visit my gp.
GP’s can be a pain in the arse for sure – but it seems like your putting up a barrier to something that could help/support you in the short to medium term, why not try it? It might help . I know it can feel like going to the Dr's only for them to , but you don’t actually have to be nice to the GP, depending what action you took it could simply be stress relief , lol , but it makes sense to try it if your feeling crap.

Wishing you well
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Old 10th November 2015, 21:28
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^ Thank you
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Old 10th November 2015, 22:06
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The underlying cause for my suicidal thoughts, apart from anxiety/depression is feeling disconnected from the world. At risk of sounding like a hipster, modern life is too complicated and too full of regret for me, but I'm not sure how I'd fare being a peasant either.
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Old 10th November 2015, 22:38
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The underlying cause for my suicidal thoughts, apart from anxiety/depression is feeling disconnected from the world. At risk of sounding like a hipster, modern life is too complicated and too full of regret for me, but I'm not sure how I'd fare being a peasant either.
I totally understand.
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Old 10th November 2015, 23:02
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The underlying cause for my suicidal thoughts, apart from anxiety/depression is feeling disconnected from the world. At risk of sounding like a hipster, modern life is too complicated and too full of regret for me, but I'm not sure how I'd fare being a peasant either.

By "disconnected" do you mean you feel you don't fit in or were you outcasted?
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Old 11th November 2015, 18:57
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Old 11th November 2015, 20:19
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Thank you CC, and for Newbs, for thinking of the both of us.

I just don't know what to do to be honest Work is absolutely my saving grace and has been for the past couple of months. I dread to think what I'd be like now if I didn't have work to occupy me everyday. At work I'm motivated, chatty and I'm fine really. It's coping away from work that can be the problem at times.

I really don't want to go on anti-depressants. I feel like because I'm already on medication for migraine I just don't want to add more pills to the mix. Maybe that's a silly excuse, I don't know. Is it stupid to think I can get through this without visiting my gp? All I know is that I don't want to visit my gp.
I'm really sorry you're struggling at the moment, HS

I can see why you wouldn't want to go on anti-depressants, I've got an appointment with the gp myself next week and I'm expecting him to want to put me on anti-depressants for my own depression and suicidal thoughts/feelings (although needless to say I won't go anywhere near mentioning the s word around a health professional) when I really don't want to go on them, but you could ask your gp to be referred to counselling maybe? Or have you thought about private counselling? It's not stupid to think you can get through this without visiting the gp or a professional, it's understandable that you might be reluctant to seek professional help, you will get through it, but it might help having someone you feel like you can properly open up to, cause I know I couldn't tell other people the full extent of what I'm feeling, I'm worried about being a burden or making them feel uncomfortable or how they might react, but with a counsellor I don't get those feelings, I feel like I can open up to them without worrying about how they'll react or cope with what I'm telling them. Although I realise it may not be like that for others with counsellors.

It'll get better
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Old 11th November 2015, 20:39
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I'm really sorry you're struggling at the moment, HS

I can see why you wouldn't want to go on anti-depressants, I've got an appointment with the gp myself next week and I'm expecting him to want to put me on anti-depressants for my own depression and suicidal thoughts/feelings (although needless to say I won't go anywhere near mentioning the s word around a health professional) when I really don't want to go on them, but you could ask your gp to be referred to counselling maybe? Or have you thought about private counselling? It's not stupid to think you can get through this without visiting the gp or a professional, it's understandable that you might be reluctant to seek professional help, you will get through it, but it might help having someone you feel like you can properly open up to, cause I know I couldn't tell other people the full extent of what I'm feeling, I'm worried about being a burden or making them feel uncomfortable or how they might react, but with a counsellor I don't get those feelings, I feel like I can open up to them without worrying about how they'll react or cope with what I'm telling them. Although I realise it may not be like that for others with counsellors.

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Thanks Olly

I don't have any real desire to seek any kind of support or help from professionals. Maybe a small part of me feels I deserve to feel like this because of something I did? I also don't think I could open up to a complete stranger about how I'm feeling. I don't think I could be honest and explain everything. It's a situation that would make me feel socially anxious I think.

I'm also quite wary of admitting to any type of professional that I think I may be depressed and suicidal. I don't want to be signed off work and it is something that I would have to declare at work because of the profession I work in.

I hope this doesn't offend anybody but in my view, anti-depressants don't tackle the problem. Like with the majority of medication it simply stops the symptoms. My depression would still be there. That's just my personal view. I completely understand why others take them.
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Old 11th November 2015, 20:46
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^I completely agree. I kind of want to give help from professionals a try though. I doubt it will be any good, however.

I hope you feel better soon, HS.
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