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I am neither at the high end or the low end when it comes to functioning. I don't consider myself highly educated as I only did O levels.My 1st hospitalisation occurring the term I was due to take A levels. I have both ASD and a dx that swings between schizophrenia and schizoaffective disorder.
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An article that shows that IQ scores don't predict success for autistic adults. https://www.spectrumnews.org/opinion...tistic-adults/ |
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^ There are also the co-morbidities which often go along with autism like dyslexia, dyspraxia, ADHD and epilepsy. They can have significant effects on certain areas of functioning.
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^ It seems to be not an uncommon story at all unfortunately.
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Thank you for the replies, directly and indirectly. It’s an interesting discussion.
My priority is depression right now, and I might be getting an appointment for that soon. I could perhaps bring it up then too, especially as it might have some relation to my depression. I actually work with autistic children myself, so it has made me much more aware of it all, and is making me wonder if it was just missed in my childhood. Especially when some of the children do the sort of things I would do! It is clear there is more awareness of it now (but more needs to be done), we see the signs a lot more easily. It’s getting easier to see in girls as well, which has also been a difficult demographic to diagnose, generally speaking. |
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If the mental illness comes first you can be on a hiding to nothing. It is often found that those who have a mental illness and later get an ASD dx have been treated badly by mental health services.
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Autism and ADHD: should special interests be encouraged? With Richard Semmens. (Spoiler alert, yes.)
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This was really interesting to read about these ladies' experiences of seeking diagnosis:
https://metro.co.uk/2021/03/27/too-p...osed-14299958/ It was so sad how she was treated at the beginning, but the outcome is encouraging |
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A Conceptual Analysis of Autistic Masking
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I remember the bullying that occurred on going to the private school equivalent of secondary school. The social rejection for being different. The difficulty coping with the increased expectations of being a teenager. The lack of confidence and self worth that came from incidences like other boys in the class directing monkey chants at me. I’ve learnt to cope a little better, but the psychological effects have never truly gone away. A situation compounded by a mental health system that has been largely more critical and judgemental than supportive. The response from mental health services here in Wiltshire has been a welcome exception to that. |
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^I hope autism really is dealt with better in Schools nowadays. Even 10 years ago, when I was in high School, there was support for ADHD, Autism, dyslexia but there wasn't much awareness with high functioning autism, social anxiety. I still remember two teachers, both that were meant to be a special needs teachers, telling me off for being quiet and shy.
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^ It certainly is, generally speaking. I’m sure some schools are still terrible at it, but it’s become much more important and better dealt with. It is good to see dyspraxia getting more attention too.
I remember there still being a massive stigma when I was a child, and people with ADHD, autism, dyslexia were bullied for being ‘thick’, or presumed to be making it up for attention, or to get government benefits. These are the sort of things I heard regularly. There still is a stigma, and I’m sure the average Daily Mail reader still thinks people claim it to get benefits or whatever, but I think society is now much more accepting than was I was at school 15-20 years ago. That’s the impression I get anyway. |
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My experience was 46+ years ago. Being introverted, shy, timid and bad at sports didn't go down well when the vast majority were brash extroverts, and being good at sports was seen as being next to Godliness.
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Yes, I've read that: Nuerotypical people think the biggest issue with being autistic is social communication etc, where as autistic people say their biggest issue is the sensory stuff.
It makes sense as nuerotypical people have to deal with the social aspects of it more, or can spot it more easily, where as the sensory stuff seems to be harder to see or understand. |
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#ActuallyAutistic NTs tend to think I'm weird. Highly vocal NDs can be intimidating. Many from both groups make me feel ill at ease.Both can be demanding &intolerant.
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With me not being comfortable with myself as a person I think it was slowly taught that I had to be a certain way. I say this because people who seem more comfortable to express themselves vocally, not necessarily in other ways, really don’t seem to mind coming across messy, imperfect.
I wonder if being able to stim without much shame makes us more comfortable with expressing ourselves on the whole? I use to naturally stim but my mum use to constantly tell me off for it. I was told other things were wrong that I did growing up, things that are natural behaviours. Maybe this discomfort with expressing myself is a form of making but then also not feeling okay with the fact that I don’t always know how to interact. |
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^ It's unfortunate that a lot of children were automatically told to sit still or stop "fidgeting" by their parents and so had to suppress their natural behaviours that actually help them to regulate or process, or even learn and concentrate.
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Early emerging autism spectrum disorder symptom levels often declined across development, according to an analysis of a prospective population-based cohort published in American Journal of Psychiatry.
However, impairment continued to manifest into adulthood for certain individuals. https://www.healio.com/news/psychiat...=3640963268474 Masking? Avoiding things you couldn't avoid as a child? |
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I don't think it mentioned if they did something like ABA which they say reduces the symptoms of autism.
If they didn't go ABA then it could suggest that ABA isn't that effective as the symptoms decline any way. |
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^ ABA is pretty contraversial, particularly among autistic individuals themselves. The idea of reducing autistic symptoms itself can be tricky because on one hand if autistic meltdowns are reduced because the autistic person has found ways that they can avoid sensory overload etc, with using headphones for example that could be positive. On the other hand trying to reduce someone's stimming, which is one of the most obvious autistic symptoms, could actually be harmful for that person.
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When I used to teach I often heard ABA referred to as dog training for children with autism You're right Dougella that it is controversial.
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Yes, it sounds brutal but is the main option for getting help for parents with autism in America.
I think the guy that invented it also invented or pioneered gay conversion therapy. https://stopabasupportautistics.home...rsion-therapy/ |
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^^ I have read about very disturbing uses of ABA where people with autism were given electric shocks if they did something "wrong", and not even something dangerous or hurtful which wouldn't be acceptable either anyway! I know that autistic adults have been speaking out about how going through ABA therapy as a child was very damaging for them.
It's supposed to be much better these days and doesn't involve punishments, but still training a child seems wrong on many levels. There are therapies like speech therapy, occupational therapy and physical therapy that can help with things that a child might be struggling with without taking that approach. |